Truth stands alone! Say does anyone know when Johnnie Depp received his homicide dick license? Unfortunately, as time passes, the likelihood of solving this puzzle decreases exponentially. Contrast that with the actual amount of school shootings. Is Jason and Damien employed? Jules, Heres the thing I dont believe a single thing out of Echols mouth. That they were loners, who wore black clothes and listened to hard, fast and heavy music. What does when they were born have anything to do with the possibility of them fitting the profile of a school shooter? Wow. and his theory of global warming, which another documentary film I see now that the statement was given after the murders took place, but regarded alleged events from before the murders. When is the hearing? Where are the women that they were with and had Orgy(s) with during the cult activities? But, Im also interested if anybody can point me to evidence Omg it all makes sense! If they were born just 5 or 10 years later I think they would have been prolific school shooters. The most valuable evidence were the victims bodies, were they properly examined and store any tissue samples for future analysis if needed? The only possible culprits were 18-year-old Damien Echols, a poor teen with an interest in the occult and a record of mental illness, his friend Jason Baldwin, a quiet kid whose talent for art tended toward dark subjects, and Jessie Misskelley, a 17-year-old misfit with an IQ of 73. Come on peoplethe first trial alone should have never happened to begin with. you people are nutty. hell, they were living like kings. you mean like the video evidence of Gitchell smoking inside the crime scene boundary? LITERALLY THREATS TO KILL HIS PARENTS. The appeals on Baldwin and Miskelleys state post-conviction claims were dismissed as part of the plea agreement. With their clothes staked into the bottom of the water with a large stick. From a legal perspective, there is no bias, despite who is delivering the info. The case got attention because of MISINFORMATION about the case. Charming, intelligent, a compulsive and easy liarand he is GUILTY. Either way, there are REAMS of evidence that he is a sadistic psychopath, and has behaved accordingly in numerous other incidents not directly related to the the murders of three little boys.. Echols, 19 at the time of his trial, was sentenced to death. i swear this country is ridiculous, a blind man can see they are guilty as hell. Youre right about lies and sprinkles of truth, but Ive personally heard enough of Echols bullshit not to be eager for any more. The necklace that was recovered which had blood on it, actually shot by HBO but left out of the documentary (on youtube). I think most of you are a bunch of fanatics, on both sides. 3) He names every person he remembers being sent to death row in his book. Thats only one of the many reasons I think theyre guilty. witnesses and even pointed a finger at a new suspect. taken from http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/aug/28/hollywood-directed-defense-of-three/?print=1 Three kids that play the system like a pawn store banjo. There will always be people that believe both sides, but I support and have supported them the whole way, and truly believe in their innocence. But thats because I would also be innocent. Of course, it is a leap to go from mentally ill with suicidal ideation/ thoughts of patricide to child murderer, but there are precedents for that to occur. This type of person loves to point out all of the glaring facts omitted from the documentary, proving how bias the film makers are. Thanks Trench. Animals are innocent creatures which only kill out of means of survival or if they feel you are a threat. Its just my opinion after all. And I will always acknowledge that they are guilty. matter how hard he tried and there is no way you could watch this man and Check the DNA evidence from 2007. According to his Goodreads page, he has written as many as eight. But you just keep on foaming at the mouth like the rabid dog you are. Trench, you are free to believe whatever you feel like believing. Does it truly bother you that these 3 innocent men have finally received some justice of fairness ? Damien Echols grew up as a Metallica-listening, Wicca-dabbling, non-conformist teenager in southern bible belt country. He was only depressed and not a total psycho. I simply asked what you meant. Why don't you come back when you're a little less fanatical m'kay? All of your opinions are based on hearsay testimonies from witnesses who have openly admitted to perjury. Echols recently started a podcast called Not Just Idle Chatter. You can listen to the podcast on YouTube here. When truth be told Yeshua came to preach love, and tolerance. Damien Echols is GUILTY as sin and is an open Satanic witch to this day. I just dont feel the evidence was sufficient enough for conviction. Anger? Hollingsworth (killed in a car accident in 2001). Everything is about him his poor living conditions while Its on a message board, but the opening post is all you need for finding your way around the 500. http://www.downonthefarm.org/wm3hoax/board/index.php/topic,26.0.html. Oh wait, yes I do. Either way, doesnt bode well, especially if he gets bored of being in the shadow. If youre interested let me know and Ill tell you how to contact me. Echols claimed to have sufficient evidence in 2007 when he filed his amended habeas claims. Once youve crossed the line & killed you cant come back over without some sort of redemption. Miskelley, Jr.s former girlfriend, Susie Brewer Boggan, had reportedly shared how he had been mad for not having a life as good as Echols or Baldwins. I know that it is only ONE of the reasons you think they are guilty. Thats bascially ALL it takes! People could be supportive without becoming a sheep in the Echols flock. Look it up, dude. The only people I am certain should spend the rest of their lives in prison are Gitchell, Ridge, Fogleman, and Burnett. pull out the dictionary son, and find out what the word means before you spit it out. Christian religions also talk of human sacrifice are they not reminded all the Damien Echols spent 18 years facing execution after being wrongly convicted of a triple child killing. While I respect all walks of life and the lifestyles of others I must say I loathe being labeled by some individuals as in this category. personaly I dont have any doubt in my mind, Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jesse Misskelley(along with others possibly) committed this attrocious act of deprevation on three innocent young boys. uhmm sorry but if N Z means you live in new zealand, hate to inform you, but the Devils advocate DE is there now with his financial nuthugger peter jackson..staying until christmas according to reports..lock your doors.. Jeez, they better not ever come north, We dont want baby killers in Canada. Id love to be on the cool side of the fence with Depp, Rollins, Manson, Vedder, etc. The boy he attacked was not sexually mutilated. The whole Hobbs did it movement is nothing more than smoke and mirrors, just as the Byers did it movement was between 1993 and 2007. The film is currently in post-production. If anyone actually would look at the case files themselves they will see way more evidence than the documentaries let on. Misunderstood goth persecuted by Bible Belters my a**. I think a good place to start is the location and the people that live there. I think its unfortunate that so many see this as a matter where you must either support the position that the WM3 were railroaded innocents or cold blooded killers who got off the hook (albeit after serving nearby 2 decades in prison). Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. But, I welcome the opportunity to discuss this with Trench, et al. Yes thats right it now has come to light. **I am not interested in the cult/insanity aspect of this case. There was no justice to be found in any aspect of this case. Yes they COULD sue the state, its just that AR has no statute. Well, they do now, dont they? I agree..Harris & Klebold were definitely not as sick. I am not an expert in philosophy, but even I can see your argument is the result of faulty reasoning. Or do cowards like you take after Hutchison/Echols, Baldwin and Misskellely and only go after 8 year olds ? The justice system is impressively lax on child killers this year. Peter Stop giving them our hard earned money. I couldnt agree with u more! to question that possibly his brain tumour if he indeed has one, maybe GUILTY! DE comes off as another Scott Petersen, another Oswald (Im a Patsy! All of them were linked with ACTUAL DNA EVIDENCE to the crime not a bunch of he said, she saids. What do you make of him requesting new DNA testing? Wendy, the problem with that theory is that the boys were unrelated, which makes it highly unlikely that ANY of the parents were involved. Those cops must have lost a lot of sleep. That is why many highly trained individuals willingly worked alongside these celebrities without PHDs in order to highlight the misinformation. LTrainLT, cant reply to your comment, so Ill just post it here: http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/img/exh500.html. points from being considered mentally retarded, not to mention the only people who heard the confession were the cops in the car and a known jailhouse snitch. If you cant do the math on that then I cant help you. Now, that piece neglects to mention that Woodmansee was convicted of murdering a 5 year old boy in 1975 (but wasnt caught/convicted until 1983), and that, according to his journal, he sexually assaulted the boy before murdering him and stashing he body in a trunk in his basement. Sorry. Then there is Terry Hobbs he acted weird as hell too, but it didnt seem to raise any suspicions from the West Memphis police either, I guess he didnt wear enough black. Thats America and Justice for you isnt it!!!?????? How could that not send up some red flags with a police officer? Read between the lines. I feel it was just the right of combination of classic (if painfully cliched and unrealistic) tropes that attractedhis myriadfamous supporters to him. http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jmfeb.html, Think of how the police ask him the questions. Why did Jessie confess multiple times? After the author compiles all of the facts you missed, because you didnt do as much research as he did, he then adds them up using elementary basic fingers in the air type math and gets the sum of =GUILTY, OBVIOUSLY! Now if you had said they fit the profile of child murderers, then your point would make more sense. I am of the opinion that his entire confession, by todays standards, is not admissible in his own case, muchless bringing it before the judge in the other case. Damien and Domini have been friends for many years now and Damien does see his son. These murderers walking free are guilty. the convictions at all, considering the pure lack of any real evidence and the According to him, all documentaries do this. I know, sit & think about it awhile. it costs more on average to execute rather than feed, clothe, provide medical care for an inmate? has damien ever done so as well? His handlers probably wont let him near a microphone. None of the three were boy scouts although Jason has been presented as nearly being so by WM3 reporters. Hes a psychopath, not all the so called antisocial teens are like him. How can you possibly predict that any of these guys WOULD have been school shooters? Here is where you can read Damien Echols frightening mental health reports: Whats funny (at least to me) is that the solicitations for donations to continue testing and investigation havent raised a single red flag with supporters. I guess maybe theres something to that witchcraft business after all, right? noticed that i made valid points based on proven facts, while you made argumentative phrases based on nothing. I dont see how its possible for any of them to find peace carrying that kind of a secret. It is my opinion that Depp knows the effect films have on the subconscious and he also knows who he serves, But SSSsssssh,,. Can the families of the victims sue these three for wrongful death in civil court, or does the Alford plea disallow that scenario? How can that be? Please read the information about the lack of eveidence, and stop accusing Even Arkansas New they had no evidence to convict them this time Thats is why they let them go! Its that cult of personality that Echols has culled over the years combined with the CSI Effect that has led to their recent release.. Hey trenchyboy that word afterlife didnt stir up any satanic demons did it ? Moves a lot? Does any Of this sound like the plight of 3 innocent teenagers?? Id like to believe that none of them are bloodthirsty but its sadistic for them to blame the victims parents (and they know this). And because of THAT, it must mean I too cannot form a rational and intelligent thought and am blinded by the hype. I dont even like discussing the killers, because the ones in this crime, the three who should be remembered and discussed, were innocent little boys out riding their bikes. Damien Echols currently lives in Harlem, New York City. WOW. Seems a bit , oh, I dont know, childish for a crime reporter. only showed where the police may not have been very thorough in their investigation and left room for ppl to believe these 3 may have been convicted because they were different. He was civilly committed, but it was his choice, which means he can sign himself out at any time. I have read every document on the Callahan website, up to the Ns in the alphabetical index. It shows there true colors or allegiance tot there cause and Lucifer. Thats your opinion. Was recently going through my older CDs and came across the benefit album Henry Rollins cut. If they could not, then the state would have had no reason to require releases (which, by the way, would never hold up if and when the WM3 actually were proven innocent). And what evidence? He cut his hair to that weirdo cut for the courtroom to look more alternative. (echols) help for Im so disgusted i cant beleive it and what celebs paying for their legal fees and stuff o m g!!! Did the 3 victims represent what they could never be or what they hated about the small town they grew up in? there was no DNA evidence found, one should realize that the lack of DNA June 3, 1993 - Police arrest 18-year-old Damien Echols, 16-year-old Jason Baldwin, and 17-year-old Jessie Misskelley. Again, the movie onlyportraysone side. I can not say he did it, there is no direct evidence. Had they done so, the WMPD would have had reason to look at him. He is just a normal dude, slightly nerdy and into goth culture. I believe one or more of the boys were attacked which led to a violent situation where there was no coming back from for the purpotraters. I cant get enough of serial killer documentaries but a fairly normal and uninteresting guy like Damien Echols who only became a person of interest because of what was done to him by a massively flawed legal system. If it was done because the kids stumbled on something going on, why kill them that way? Does anyone find it odd that Damien and Jason jet set to far away Still no alibi for the three after all these years. might reach $10 million through direct expenditures and in-kind I happen to think the creeps from Hollywood helped him out because they are also Satanists. Obviously there were school shootings prior to the late 1990s but they did not become the cultural phenomenon they are in this country until the late 90s with such shootings as Paducah, Jonesboro and of course Columbine. But there simply wasnt enough to prove the three guilty, and more than there is enough to prove parents/bojangles/or anyone else guilty. I have followed this case for the past 15+ years, and no one (aside from those directly involved in the case) would love to figure out who killed those children more than I would. In some ways I see Damien as cold, calculated and disturbed. The original documentary also shows that there were problems with the prosecutions case, and bias against Echols due to his weirdness. Does that make me a potential school shooter? That is NOT the way our justice system is supposed to work. In fact, he would tell anyone who disagrees with a guilty verdict to go educate themselves beyond the paradise lost movies. When three 8-year-old boys Stevie Branch, Michael Moore and Christopher . (Barry Chin/Boston Globe via Getty) Under the terms of an unusual plea deal, Echols, along with two other men who, pled guilty to murder . If they did then I dont think they could say theyre Innocent and Id hope she wouldnt of married him if she knew? AL Simon, you need to get your facts straight Where the hell are you getting that Hobbs was the last one to see the boys? Furthermore, she had also shared how she had reminded Miskelley, Jr. that Echols and Baldwin had finished their GED in prison while Miskelley, Jr. did not make productive use of his time. if all of those millions of dollars couldnt find anyone other than them that met the criteria i used then you are stupid if you say they are innocent. they were released bc even the police know they innocent..thats why they made the 3 teens sign a paper saying they will not sue arkansas..go read all the stuff on wm3.org and you will realize what everybody else realizes, NO EVIDENCE ALL THE EVIDENCE POINTS TOWARD TERRY HOBBS. I dont think he would have had any mental issues with a different family, different hood. they would have did more time in the pen for all of that cash. That was a waste of three minutes off my life. I dare ya. then we can make the same points based on evidence and fact concerning the still guilty, not exonerated, trio of convicted child killers. I dont see how thats a stereotype. I dont know how I missed this one, but less than a month after this post, another child murderer was released (early) from prison. As for his mental state, based on the 500-page report on his mental history and his various diagnoses from various mental institutions over the years, I believe Echols mental issues are of the kind and magnitude that can be exacerbated by ones surroundings, but not caused by them. tell me that. Yet I see. Satanism Then Lorri Davis, a woman he'd never met, began a campaign that would set him free . Thank you so much for taking the time to post it. These clues do not point to an angry stepfather. they may very well be inncoecnt. and by alibi, i mean one that stood up in court? Thanks for listening Jules, and everyone else. One thing is for sure, whether guilty or innocent, Jessie lies/contradicts himself over and over throughout all of the confessions. Echols habeas claims in federal court were dismissed as part of the ple agreement, so his failure to prevail in state court stands. Misskelley is presented in the docs as a good natured simpleton, when in reality he had a well earned reputation as a violent bully. Actually so much of what your assertions are based on is not actual evidence, but manipulations and fabrications by the prosecution and police dept. so lets get this straight counselor trench needs to be a lawyer, district attorney, judge what not to start a page? They dont give a damn about you and me. You know, I was going to have a long response to this comment then I realized that this commenter is probably just an angsty teen who has no idea how the real world works. Some are very chilling. Its a trend as of late in Hellywood to portray the villains as heroes and the good guys as bad (dead pool, batman- dark knight) its a form of predictive programming. These animals are guilty and should be in prison. say the exhibit 500 is a lie. Sorry but you cant just guess who did it. Why hang with Lorri Davis when he can have his pick of groupies? use of a particular knife in question, the loss of his real teeth, the timing Who can blame any of them men for accepting the plea to get out of the hell hole they were wrongly put in. Jessies first confession is a complete joke. How exactly could one teenager, convinced a trio of children to tie each other up? it makes sense to confess beating up a kid, after all damion and jason did the abusing and killing. I DO know Damien personally, and I dont believe for a split-second that he would hurt my child even if she werent his goddaughter. His partner Lorry is a film producer by profession. That was not a confession. If anyone still thinks that the three are innocentlook at some facts. I think this was focused on by the first Paradise Lost doc. Thank you for your comment Mandy. Damien, Jason and Jessie, spent half their lives in prison, for the mere fact of being from the poorer side of town, making a few off colored remarks, which they were not serious when it was said, they were just kids playing off rumours that were circulating about Damien How could these young teenagers ever have believed they would have been convicted for the murders of Stevie Branch, Christopher Byars, or Michael Moore. So Im guessing you have access to all the West Memphis police records at that time. twisted friendship and romantic ties had a lot to do with muddying the waters of this case just enough to create sufficient doubt to effect the eventual release of the WM3. Everyones comments on this have been an interesting read. And it is not necessarily proof of 1) He never went outside while in prison (It is a regulatio that all inmates have outside time). You see, you dont need religion to be judgmental or be a zealot. Exactly! The fact that you quote Damien Echols as wah, wah, wah only demonstrates how dogmatic you are regarding the case and that you are unable to even consider competing ideas. Ive always marveled at how the police think three teenagers could have committed such a crime and left so little physical evidence? I get that a lot myself being white and muslim. What about the witnesses that have all recounted the stories they gave in 1993 stating they were false? Maybe it will finally get you somewhere someday If I came to the argument without ammunition, you dont even have a cap gun here, boy. Anywhere. They havent fooled me Trench. Either way, I find no real reason to argue with you but you seem to feel a lot of hostility towards me because I brought up Terry Hobbs in an online comment post. If youre going to make these claims, back them up. (This comment is a reply to Chriss comment left on Aug. 23, 2011 @ 5:28am.). Even if they were in fact guilty, their convictions were a travesty of justice. Damian Seth Azariah's father is best known as a member of the West Memphis Three, a group of teenagers controversially accused of a triple murder. lol I get asked that a lot. sounds like you need to go back to math class. While I disagree with your opinion thank you for proving one of my points about most WM3 supporters. Why did he confess AFTER he was convicted? Its been several years and Echols has a You tune channel. Scary precedent. Thankfully this case is no longer reliant on what WM3 supporters may or may not believe or anyone else. Tim Cotten stated that his cellmate, L. G. Hollingsworth, told him that he struck a deal with Damien to beat up Christopher Byers to get back at John Byers because of a drug deal gone bad and because it was difficult to actually get John Byers himself. Have you even researched the case? Dont insult animals. Learn how your comment data is processed. where is the proof? Damien Wayne Echols (born Michael Wayne Hutchison; December 11, 1974) is an American writer, best known as one of the West Memphis Three, a group of teenagers controversially accused and convicted of a triple murder. Kind of like that book OJ Simpson almost put out called If I Did It. Ritual books? Nor, he has shared the details about his educational background. Please remember to research everything and question everything!!! Plus hes a master manipulator. Imalso not sure they have each other. I do not understand how anyone can read the exhibit 500 and think for a He wont, however, tell you that the confessions or the bloody necklace were never evidence used in the trial or that there most likely wasnt any knife wounds on the victims. Echols' Exhibit 500 compiled BY His DEFENSE attorneys to avoid death penalty. Since day one of learning about this case I have been probably the biggest single supporter of the WM3 Im sure,If not,I Im close,I am not bragging but I say this because I have spent countless hours blogging, reading every single document,you name it,I did it. Anyway, I remember a time when all the evidence pointed to Mark Byers or the mysterious guy from Bojangles. The West Memphis Three: An ID Murder Mystery is an Investigation Discovery docuseries that reexamines one of the most discussed false convictions in the history of the United States: the West Memphis Three. I will continue to read your articles. Its detecting large amounts of copy and paste in this comment. I am inclined to believe that the state of Arkansas would not have offerer them the Alford plea deal if they had a reason to believe the boys would have lost in a new trial. I wonder how much the makers of the biased documentaries/wm3 celebrity supporters paid him to defend and support Echols. The difference is when I became an adult I could look past it to see where Echols and his gang are guilty. I urge all everyone to read the case files. And just how many other comparisons with famous murders are you going to compare this too? Etc etc. As far as the animals thing goes, I cant stand animal abusers, but I grew up in the sticks, and the good ol boys used to think it was funny to shine deer, then beat them to death with baseball bats. I also dont think the motive was of a sexual nature(there was no evidence of rape). These 3 convicted murders got caught. The hearing was requested by attorneys for Damien Echols, one of three teenagers convicted in 1994 of the brutal murder of three Cub Scouts in West Memphis, Arkansas. this case isnt a tv show, it is real life, and sometimes killers wear black t-shirts, listen to metallica, and worship the devil. Were the 3 convicted murders ever given a psychological evaluation? 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